Comments on: Jay Bakker – A Love That Restores

By: James Gardner

James Gardner — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 03:05:42 +0000

Being gay is a sin. I like Jay but he is absolutely wrong.

By: Beck

Beck — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:02:41 +0000

ya…it’s amazing how many are quick to judge. i really believe this makes God sad. Christians often DETER me from pointing people to the church. Why do people get so fixated on sexuality when they often lack awareness of the condition of their own heart? I think of people who reveal their judgements of others, when suddenly a word is spoken or a situation arises to reveal, “surprise!”, they’re dealing with the EXACT same issue or another. When your slate is clean from lust, idolatry, greed, pride, envy, jealousy, arrogance, negligence, selfishness, lack of self-control, etc, etc….then, go ahead, speak.(Oh, and congratulations on your perfection! and the omniscience of God). The amazing thing is Jesus loves us with all of the flawed factors in our lives, whether people agree or disagree with that.

By: Drew Tatusko

Drew Tatusko — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 04:03:24 +0000

i am continually amazed at how some people do not see those whom jesus challenged as reflected in their pharisaic slavery to the law. paul believed himself to be a slave to christ not the law because he understood jesus to have fulfilled the law of death with the law of grace and mercy. if this is not the heart of the gospel then the gospel does not exist.

By: The Amazing Rando

The Amazing Rando — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:58:21 +0000

I don’t think heroin, polygamy, or pornography is a sin, and I’m tired of all the mean-spirited people that say it is. It’s so “unloving” to tell someone that what they are doing is wrong… even if you are doing it because you love them.
Can’t we just affirm everything? Gosh!

By: Mike

Mike — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:03:38 +0000

we should always activate in love and remember that we all sin even if we are in Christ

sinlessness is unattainable in this body of death we are in (paul makes those points so much better than i can)

also paul makes many points that show that sexual morality is still an issue for the church and should be taken seriously

paul even talks about how humans have traded natural affection for same sex affection

the NT “love” message never takes away from the OT truth of what sin is but rather it promotes saying that if we love God and love our neighbor as ourselves that wee will fulfill everything else because love never does harm

there is a point in the bible that talks about how sexual immorality actually breeds sin committed against oneself

its not that sexual sins are worse than other sins as much as they are different

if one says that sexual sins are not sin then they are making their own theology and inserting their opinions into Gods word

we all have sin and God knows that so lets not downplay it as ok

By: Lori

Lori — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 23:51:40 +0000

Wow…another lens to contemplate same sex marriage. I love it! Thank you Jay! Before I turned toward my call to ordained ministry, my favorate saying was…life is messy! Why is society so bent on pushing us toward perfection when only the uncreated Creator could be perfect. We are messy. Life is messy. However as we are redeemed, we all have a place in redemtpion. ALL OF US! We all need to learn to love one another! And help each other on the journey..

By: Jason

Jason — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:52:56 +0000

There are weightier matters (as Jesus said). I believe this restorative and forgiving kind of love is much weightier than mere sexual morality.

I’ve never considered myself gay affirming, but I still appreciate the thrust of what Jay is saying here.

Several of my long-time friends are either recovering from a gay lifestyle or returning to one. Either way they seem to be happy with the direction they’ve gone. Is happiness the best judge for healthy boundaries?

I’ll keep questioning some God and church questions, but hopefully I never forget Jesus’ prayer:

“Forgive us as we forgive others.”

By: pam hogeweide

pam hogeweide — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:18:28 +0000

I don’t think being gay is a sin. Being mean-spirited is…

By: mike pollie

mike pollie — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 04:40:32 +0000

just because a man says something is right does that make Gods word void? not at all

shall we continue in sin so that grace can abound? certainly not-rom 6:1

restoration is not about accepting peoples sin

God accepts us just the way we are and then He loves us so much that He helps us change into who He wants us to be

max lucado talks about how his little girl put a handful of dirt in her mouth and when he saw it he took her over to the water fountain to wash it out

did he love her any less with the dirt in her mouth? of course not. and he loved her too much to leave her with the dirt in her mouth

thats how God loves us

God never changes His mind on sin

God has not given us a word saying sin is ok so why would we make it ok on our own terms just to accept people

arent we supposed to become more like Christ

did Christ accept sin

not at all

go your way and sin no more

while we will never be free from sin in this life that does not mean we should condone it in ourselves and it also means we should inform our brothers and sisters when they are caught in it

By: pam hogeweide

pam hogeweide — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:31:35 +0000

In recent years I have changed my mind about same sex relationships. At times I wonder, “Why must it be a scandal to accept our gay brothers and sisters without trying to get them to ‘pray the gay away?’” It is heartening to encounter bold love that will not be discreet about love for one another no matter sexual orientation.

Fiery love will inspire others to do likewise.

Thank you Jay and to The Ooze team for busting down the borders that keep us from. Exhibiting Otherliness.